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Post by will on May 16, 2012 13:51:05 GMT -5
The hereditary aristocracy is among us again. We should recognize those born to wealth and power for what they are becoming - modern day royals. They think they earned it, but there's no chance they could get where they do without a whole lot of assistance. Their power of self-aggrandizement and self-delusion when it comes to their heroic success stories, overcoming their disadvantages of having private tutors and chummy investors willing to hand over wads of cash. And, we should quit calling the Republicans anything less than the Monarchist party. We will have hereditary kings if they get their way, we will just call those hereditary kings something else. And just like hereditary nobility everywhere else and in just about every era, they will devolve quickly until dissipated twits. www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/may/06/leveson-murdoch-cameron-brooks-privilege
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Post by kitkat on May 16, 2012 19:43:37 GMT -5
So...you didn't sit home & watch the Royal wedding, mmmm? lol
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Post by baldrick on May 17, 2012 9:34:25 GMT -5
Bwaaaahahahaha!!! ;D
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Post by will on May 17, 2012 9:56:04 GMT -5
So...you didn't sit home & watch the Royal wedding, mmmm? lol Y'know, I didn't. In other news that day, some other rich people I don't know and don't much care about got married. Their IQs were slightly higher than a dishtowel, which disqualifies them from membership in the English royalty, but I still didn't watch their wedding. It's clearly a personal failure on my part.
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Post by kitkat on May 17, 2012 10:21:01 GMT -5
I think the image of US culture as being anti-monarchy/anti-class is a big fat myth. Just because we fought against a monarchy doesn't mean we never wanted one of our own (i.e.Washington). Bluebloods (filthy dynastic rich) have been with us since the get-go. There was more concentration of wealth in the pre-civil war years than there is today. And again afterwards. The top 30 richest americans of all time were all 18th and 19th century figures. Cornelius Vanderbilt was nearly 5 times wealthier (in terms of wealth/gdp) than Bill Gates (who comes in at #31). The US has always been, from the beginning, nothing but a quasi-democratic oligarchy. Perhaps we should accept that little 30 year post war era as the economic anomaly that it actually was--rather than viewing it through the limited perspective of our own lives as some sort of "normal"-- that it never in reality ever was.
Face it--humanity is just not an egalitarian species--just overdressed self-impressed chimps, most adept at flinging poo, infatuated with mirrors and sex and forever on the edge of violence & madness.
Fun to watch tho...such antics!! lol
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Post by will on May 17, 2012 16:09:25 GMT -5
Well, just because it's been done before, and for a long time, doesn't make it a good idea to have hereditary monarchy. And, just because the 30 years or so after WWII were a bit of an anomaly as far as increasing opportunity for the great unwashed masses, regardless of background, but that doesn't mean it's not worth at least attempting to revive.
You are right, though. Humans are proof there's a God, and God likes the spectacle. Otherwise we all would have been lion and alligator food before we got very far.
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Post by kitkat on May 19, 2012 10:19:43 GMT -5
God? LOL Nature rewards so-called psychopathy. Our species' evolutionary success seems perfectly 'natural' to me, no 'higher power' required for that much...
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Post by will on May 19, 2012 21:48:42 GMT -5
Meh. We are too self absorbed and stupid to survive without help. Proof of something, but it sure ain't survival of the fittest.
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Post by baldrick on May 20, 2012 14:48:10 GMT -5
Survival of the (physically) fittest may have applied to keep us from being lion food, but it sure doesn't apply these days. Now it's survival of the most venal and well financed.
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Post by kitkat on May 21, 2012 9:45:03 GMT -5
Two cave dudes running from a bear...one guy trips his pal-- who's going to survive?
Psychopathy is quite darwinian actually...stripped down, competition is the same factor whether in hunting, escaping predation or in business & finance. 'Nice guys' finish last.
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Post by will on May 21, 2012 12:14:41 GMT -5
Well, then. Time to start practicing being a far bigger asshole.
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Post by baldrick on May 21, 2012 12:24:29 GMT -5
No kidding.
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Post by kitkat on May 22, 2012 10:34:46 GMT -5
My comment wasn't an endorsement, just a observation about the species. Thing is we have will...and the ability to *theoretically* overcome our reptilian proclivities...rather than celebrate them-- with systems such as capitalism...
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Post by baldrick on May 22, 2012 13:01:17 GMT -5
The problem is that we celebrate what appears to be success (currently amassing of great material wealth), which encourages the behavior that makes things worse. We may have the capability for the will to change things, but do we have the spine to actually execise that will in a constructive way? I hate to say it, but things will have to get a whole lot worse, before the mass of sheeple get pissed enough to do anything about it, and there will always be morons who support the assholes against their own selfinterest.
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Post by jesus on May 22, 2012 15:50:55 GMT -5
It's all just throwing feces around.
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