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Post by kitkat on Nov 18, 2009 12:55:12 GMT -5
The National Retail Federation is predicting a 1 percent decline in holiday sales from last year's dismal season.--McClatchy news
It'll be interesting to watch. I think there is enough cooped up demand to get a percent or two over last year but "flat" seems to be the overall industry expectation, despite lowering prices to the floor to attract buyers (where's the profit in that tho?) So whatever happens, an increase in sales, even incremental, won't be the whole story if it is 'deficit financed' by the retailers...
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Post by john on Nov 18, 2009 13:06:50 GMT -5
I think suppply will far outpace demand.
My parent company is a manufacturer of technology and they are cutting manufacturing from last year.
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Post by will on Nov 18, 2009 13:55:42 GMT -5
Flat sure beats plummeting. Sure, I'm a pathological optimist, but at least we are not sinking any deeper.
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Post by timd99 on Nov 19, 2009 1:54:20 GMT -5
I think suppply will far outpace demand. I will take that bet. I see this upcoming BF being huge, and consumer spending will outpace last year overall for the holiday season. |
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Post by john on Nov 19, 2009 2:15:10 GMT -5
I think suppply will far outpace demand. I will take that bet. I see this upcoming BF being huge, and consumer spending will outpace last year overall for the holiday season. I didn't realize it was a bet, but OK. Considering this has been a long recession (longer than the end of the Carter era, contrary to popular belief) I still think the hangover will be there. Not to mention, the jobless rate hasn't been trending down yet. |
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Post by arozanski on Nov 19, 2009 6:37:54 GMT -5
We're cutting way back, not for financial reasons, but because we are getting fed up with STUFF. We're doing the 'draw one name and buy one thing' idea, and trying to get people to buy books and make treats for our kid, rather than wasting money on cheap Chinese plastic crap that breaks three nanoseconds after he gets attached to whatever it is.
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Post by flylooper on Nov 19, 2009 8:19:06 GMT -5
We're cutting way back, not for financial reasons, but because we are getting fed up with STUFF. We're doing the 'draw one name and buy one thing' idea, and trying to get people to buy books and make treats for our kid, rather than wasting money on cheap Chinese plastic crap that breaks three nanoseconds after he gets attached to whatever it is. I agree completely. But then, which of my grandkids gets a present and which get screwed by grandpa??? Oh well. Adversity builds character, right? |
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Post by arozanski on Nov 19, 2009 8:40:55 GMT -5
We're cutting way back, not for financial reasons, but because we are getting fed up with STUFF. We're doing the 'draw one name and buy one thing' idea, and trying to get people to buy books and make treats for our kid, rather than wasting money on cheap Chinese plastic crap that breaks three nanoseconds after he gets attached to whatever it is. I agree completely. But then, which of my grandkids gets a present and which get screwed by grandpa??? Oh well. Adversity builds character, right? They all get presents - maybe a favorite food that only you make, or a special book, or a handmade fly, or ... |
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Post by flylooper on Nov 19, 2009 8:50:24 GMT -5
Yeah, you're right. Actually I'm giving my oldest grandson (14 yrs old) one of my fly rods. I introduced him to fly fishing over the summer and he took to it like a pro. I was so happy with that. His brother (12) isn't into fishing quite as much and so there's a dilemma brewing.
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Post by ty454 on Nov 19, 2009 10:42:16 GMT -5
Same here. I'm cutting back to say F-U to The Man. Plus I spent about $4k on an aquarium for my turtle this summer so I don't feel like spending any more money this year. Nobody in my family is getting any presents from me and I told them I don't want any presents back. The problem is both of our parents. Regardless of how many times we tell them we don't want anything, they always get some trinkity bullshit for us. It's such a waste, we end up freecycling it within a day or two anyway.
I don't know if it's that generation or what, but serious...read my lips: I DON'T WANT ANYTHING. My parents say they feel guilty not getting us anything, but seriously our household income is at least 4x theirs. If I want anything I'll buy it myself. Save your money mom, you're going to need it.
As for my wife, I asked for one thing. Dinosaurs: The Encyclopedia - Supplement 6 comes out on Dec-11th. I've been waiting like 2 years since Supplement 5. It should keep me satisfied for at least six months.
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Post by arozanski on Nov 19, 2009 11:07:29 GMT -5
Same here. I'm cutting back to say F-U to The Man. Plus I spent about $4k on an aquarium for my turtle this summer so I don't feel like spending any more money this year. Nobody in my family is getting any presents from me and I told them I don't want any presents back. The problem is both of our parents. Regardless of how many times we tell them we don't want anything, they always get some trinkity bullshit for us. It's such a waste, we end up freecycling it within a day or two anyway. I don't know if it's that generation or what, but serious...read my lips: I DON'T WANT ANYTHING. My parents say they feel guilty not getting us anything, but seriously our household income is at least 4x theirs. If I want anything I'll buy it myself. Save your money mom, you're going to need it. As for my wife, I asked for one thing. Dinosaurs: The Encyclopedia - Supplement 6 comes out on Dec-11th. I've been waiting like 2 years since Supplement 5. It should keep me satisfied for at least six months. Are you sure you weren't born in northeast PA? It's like looking into the mirror. I go through this every year - I DON"T WANT ANYTHING! Spend it on your selves - go out, have a nice night. But they insist, so I ask for Scotch. Same with the wife - if I want something, I'll go get it. But she insists (sort of, because I get her something. If I didn't, then she would have gotten me something. And it goes round and round). I'd prefer to sit with her and pick something nice for the house or family together. Old habits die hard, I guess. |
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Post by jeromeoneil on Nov 19, 2009 13:29:09 GMT -5
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Post by arozanski on Nov 19, 2009 13:30:59 GMT -5
WWJB? Probably a claw hammer ;D
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Post by jeromeoneil on Nov 19, 2009 13:34:52 GMT -5
WWJB? Probably a claw hammer ;D The Reverend Billy is awesome. He did a coast to coast tour with his choir, stopping at major shopping centers across the nation. He would go caroling inside the malls, much to people's delight. Until the lyrics of the songs he sang started to sink in on people. Start Stopping I Feel The Stop Starting Get ready the Fear is departing... START TO STOP! Stop Shopping Stop! Stop Shopping Alelujiah, Strange-a-lujiah, Change-A-le-lujiah We will never shop again Forever and amen Alelujiah, Alelujiah, Alelujiah We won't shop again! No, no, no no... We're gonna put those Nikes down and we'll Stop Shopping! Shopping! We're gonna put that Starbucks down and we'll Stop Shopping! Shopping! We're gonna put that Wal-Mart down and we will Stop! In the NICK of TIME! Stop Shopping Now! We're gonna put those SUVs down and we'll Stop Shopping! Shopping! We're gonna put those weapons down and we'll Stop Shopping! Shopping! We're gonna put those weapons down O'er the Land of the Free! START TO STOP! Alelujiah, Alelujiah, Alelujiah We won't shop again! Start Stopping I feel The Stop Starting Get ready, the fear is departing Stop Shopping, Shop No More... We will never Shop again Forever and Amen Alelujiah, Alelujiah, Alelujiah We won't Shop Again! Now who's the man who cast a pall on the big bad shopping mall? And who will stop you when you sup from a Starbucks coffee cup? He will stop you He will shock you He will test you He will bless you Children, give up all your sins For he's our Reverend! We will never shop again Forever and Amen Alelujiah, Alelujiah, Alelujia We won't shop again! Then he gets escorted out of the facility, or arrested. Their final destination was priceless. Disneyland. They crashed the Disneyland Parade. The man is my personal hero. |
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Post by rocky4948 on Nov 20, 2009 11:46:42 GMT -5
We're cutting way back, not for financial reasons, but because we are getting fed up with STUFF. We're doing the 'draw one name and buy one thing' idea, and trying to get people to buy books and make treats for our kid, rather than wasting money on cheap Chinese plastic crap that breaks three nanoseconds after he gets attached to whatever it is. I agree completely. But then, which of my grandkids gets a present and which get screwed by grandpa??? Oh well. Adversity builds character, right? Screwed by grandpa, that stuff is leagal in Oregon!!!! |
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