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Post by will on Jun 5, 2012 15:49:31 GMT -5
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Post by will on Jun 5, 2012 16:32:53 GMT -5
And, now he was for the auto bailout after he was against it. Or something like that. He's just proving my point about being consistent and clear like John Kerry, entitled like George W., and a master of timing like Michael Dukakis. He also has a voice that makes you want to hear Al Gore instead. That takes some real doing.
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Post by kitkat on Jun 6, 2012 9:26:32 GMT -5
And yet he will win, just watch.
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Post by baldrick on Jun 6, 2012 9:57:37 GMT -5
Walker won the WI recall. Sadly, that may start the ball rolling, and cause the moderate and more liberal folks to give up and stay home. Along with many folks' disappointment about some policies the President has allowed to continue or has started.  |
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Post by will on Jun 6, 2012 13:53:18 GMT -5
I'm not sure Romney will win. A pessimist will look at the Wisconsin results and see the GOP outspending the Democrats by a huge margin, once the SuperPAC cash dump gets taken into account. That's probably going to happen on a lesser scale in the fall. What this means is the GOP is one more step toward cutting off a source of support and cash for the Democrats. This is the bigger issue. The GOP is systematically trying to restrict voting wherever it can, especially if they can restrict likely Democratic voters. They are also striking hard at any of the Democrats natural constituents. What we are seeing is a bit more sinister than just Romney's lying ways. We are seeing an organized minority use every means it possibly can to put itself into a position of unchallenged power and influence. Sound like Bolsheviks, or what!
It's short sighted, of course. The absolute GOP takeover of the US won't last for more than a few generations before the lid blows off, as it has whenever there is a middle class that gets tired of getting squeezed and decides to align with the poor instead of thinking they are going to be the rich. Then the America I happen to prefer living in will be gone forever. Depending upon how barbaric the reaction is, the grandchildren of the people engineering this takeover and benefiting from it may end up like Marie Antoinette. Or, as seems to be happening, the tea bagger Jacobites will be falling all over themselves to become ever more extreme in their revolutionary and totalitarian purity. Then it will take far less than a few generations to fall apart.
This is an apocalyptic take on what's going on, but it highlights what I think is motivating a whole lot of the GOP's behavior and the behavior of their super wealthy backers. It is a power play, and a completely naked power play at that. We are just unwilling to see it happening.
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Post by baldrick on Jun 6, 2012 18:20:50 GMT -5
The folks that amaze me are the lower and middle class, working people who vote for these monsters. Are they really so utterly blind and ideologically driven? Are they truly that economically ignorant, and socially backward?
If they are, and they turn out in force so support the power grab, the takeover is likely to be short. These folks will react very badly, when they finally figure it out. After all, they have lots of firearms, and are itching for a chance to use them, I think.
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Post by kitkat on Jun 6, 2012 19:08:29 GMT -5
The republican values 'revolution' won't last one generation let alone several. Their whole demographic base is white (declining), religious (declining), and old (soon dead). Twenty years and there won't be much base left. As long as the economic system lasts, the political scene will continue to alternate between parties (actually *executing* about the same major policies as per usual) and eventually a sort of autocratic equilibrium will be reached, similar, but much more right-of-center to the post war years. By then this country will be thoroughly third world, stripped pretty much clean, compared globally. Think Mexico. That's our future right there.
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Post by will on Jun 7, 2012 9:49:19 GMT -5
Well, the lawlessness will probably happen here as the kind of greedy criminality we have seen both in drug cartels and boardrooms spreads. We are certainly armed well enough, and its mostly paranoids and nutcases who have arsenals. It's going to be an interesting time.
I'm absolutely sure the well armed loonies will react badly, but they are irrational and completely unpredictable. Beats me what they will do.
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