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Post by rocky4948 on Nov 23, 2009 11:59:13 GMT -5
Thought Kel-Tek was throw away gun. Never had a problem with the G19, many many friends who also never had one problemo with the Glock. There are lovers, and there are haters of this gun. But explain to me why S&W and many other Mfg. are going the way of the Glock??? You'll have to explain what you mean by "going the way of the Glock." Do you mean poor design and poor quality control? Because Smith, Sig, and Colt have never had those kinds of issues. All new pistols somewhat resemble the glock design. Plastic meet metal. But now that you mentioned Sig, me loves my P226. Another great piece, that is easy to take down for cleaning. |
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Post by ay-see on Nov 23, 2009 16:50:10 GMT -5
Googled Ket-Tec and found this: www.freedom1791.com/ I am not in the market for another gun. I just wondered why that name always seems to be shouted by the masses. I would love to get a Kimber, though. |
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Post by baldheadeddork on Nov 23, 2009 17:13:12 GMT -5
Oh Jesus Christ. Anyway. Loved Sigs forever, fired the HK USP .40 a few times and loved it, but if I was buying for myself it wouldn't be anything bigger than a .32 (The Taurus 24/7 is interesting and I like the Browning Pro) or maybe the HK USP Compact in .357. |
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Post by jeromeoneil on Nov 23, 2009 17:22:08 GMT -5
Googled Ket-Tec and found this: www.freedom1791.com/ I am not in the market for another gun. I just wondered why that name always seems to be shouted by the masses. I would love to get a Kimber, though. Well, I'd avoid the co-branded version. That's just gawdamn dumb.  Kimbers are nice weapons, too. |
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Post by ay-see on Nov 23, 2009 17:30:16 GMT -5
I drool on them every chance I get, but they are expensive. My dad told me last year that if I find one I like, let him know and he'd buy it for me. But then he sent me my last gun, so I can't really ask for more than that. Just need to save my pennies.
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Post by fathawk on Nov 23, 2009 19:14:55 GMT -5
Oh Jesus Christ. Anyway. Loved Sigs forever, fired the HK USP .40 a few times and loved it, but if I was buying for myself it wouldn't be anything bigger than a .32 (The Taurus 24/7 is interesting and I like the Browning Pro) or maybe the HK USP Compact in .357. This. The HK USP is the most versatile sidearm in my experience. Glock are good if you like Koolaid, and drinking it. My favorite pistol was an HK USP Compact in .45 ACP, delicious. Kimber is nice of you like 1911's, and Taurus is making a damn fine 1911 just recently for a good price. Don't discount the revolver for CC or home protection. S&W makes a damn fine compact revolver in 38+P that's a little man stopper. |
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Post by arozanski on Nov 24, 2009 7:05:15 GMT -5
I would love to get a Kimber, though. My father bought a Kimber not too long ago, a .45. Don't know the model, as I haven't been able to play with it yet. I have a Taurus PT-145, nice but I've had some misfire issues. I think it was the ammo though, as I switched brands and it fired just fine. I had a Ruger GP-100 .357 in stainless, very nice gun. Traded it for my KZ. My next purchase is going to be a Taurus Judge, .410 shotshell/.45 revolver. |
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Post by scissors on Nov 27, 2009 14:44:32 GMT -5
No gun can live up to the hype that's heaped upon Glock.
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Post by jeromeoneil on Nov 30, 2009 12:12:40 GMT -5
No gun can live up to the hype that's heaped upon Glock. This. If any gun was even half as good as the fanboy hype, we'd have won the war with 'em. |
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Post by rocky4948 on Nov 30, 2009 12:36:02 GMT -5
No gun can live up to the hype that's heaped upon Glock. This. If any gun was even half as good as the fanboy hype, we'd have won the war with 'em. Very tough to win a war with a pistol. ;D But to tell the truth it's the first thing I reach for when I hear bad things going on outside my little world, followed by my Sig. |
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Post by ay-see on Nov 30, 2009 20:16:02 GMT -5
This. The HK USP is the most versatile sidearm in my experience. Glock are good if you like Koolaid, and drinking it. My favorite pistol was an HK USP Compact in .45 ACP, delicious. Kimber is nice of you like 1911's, and Taurus is making a damn fine 1911 just recently for a good price. Don't discount the revolver for CC or home protection. S&W makes a damn fine compact revolver in 38+P that's a little man stopper. I have always heard that revolvers are more reliable, easier to use or whatever, and someone invariably recommends one to me at just about every gun show I go to, since I'm a woman. Not really sure why that matters, but apparently it's because they think most women are afraid of semi-automatic malfunctions. And actually I have had a few women tell me that they prefer revolvers because they are afraid of clearing a malfunction. But, I have almost zero experience with revolvers and they kind of freak me out a little. lol |
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Post by fathawk on Nov 30, 2009 20:51:27 GMT -5
No, most men recommend revolvers to women for one fact, as sexist as it is.
An auto pistol cycles on inertia. Limp wrist it and it won't cycle reliably. Not that this would be your issue but...
A revolver, especially a DA, will fire regardless of hold, and actually limp-wristing the bigger calibers is good, because the recoil has a place to go besides your arm.
Shoot a 6 oz. pistol in .38 +P and get back to me on that.
My point, don't discount revolvers. If you need that many shots to take a body down, get to the range, cuz you're a shitty shot.
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Post by ay-see on Nov 30, 2009 21:48:23 GMT -5
Ok cool, I've never heard that before, thanks. Also, I don't discount revolvers. I don't know anything about them except what I've been told. And I don't own the guns I have based on the number of shots I think I might need to kill someone. You sound like my father-in-law.  |
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Post by fathawk on Nov 30, 2009 22:13:47 GMT -5
Ok cool, I've never heard that before, thanks. Also, I don't discount revolvers. I don't know anything about them except what I've been told. And I don't own the guns I have based on the number of shots I think I might need to kill someone. You sound like my father-in-law. But is that a bad thing?  |
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Post by baldheadeddork on Dec 1, 2009 0:32:58 GMT -5
No, most men recommend revolvers to women for one fact, as sexist as it is. An auto pistol cycles on inertia. Limp wrist it and it won't cycle reliably. Not that this would be your issue but... A revolver, especially a DA, will fire regardless of hold, and actually limp-wristing the bigger calibers is good, because the recoil has a place to go besides your arm. Shoot a 6 oz. pistol in .38 +P and get back to me on that. My point, don't discount revolvers. If you need that many shots to take a body down, get to the range, cuz you're a shitty shot. I've never heard that, either. If your wrist is so weak that you absorb the energy needed to cycle a round in a semi-auto, I'd think that having the gun fly back and hit you in the face would be a bigger concern than cycling reliably. Everything said about revolvers is true. Compare a revolver and a semi-auto at the same price point and the revolver will be less likely to jam. Revolvers have tactical advantages, too. If you carry with an empty chamber you can get a round off much faster with a double-action revolver than a semi-auto. Something like a S&W Model 27 isn't a sexy gun, but it's accurate and it's going to work every single time you need it. The Model 60 is a terrific personal defense gun. The only real downsides is that you only have four rounds if you carry with an empty chamber and a revolver can be a little less comfortable to carry in your waistband or the small of your back because of the greater width. |
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